Profesora acusa a sus alumnos de quebrar la ley usando linux

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  • Cadarlion
    Tecnohippie
    • 09-03-2004
    • 12908

    #1

    Profesora acusa a sus alumnos de quebrar la ley usando linux

    una muestra mas de la falta de conocimiento de la gente. Disculpen el copypasteo

    Lo que sigue es la carta que envio una maestra de Austin al fundador de HeliOS, en ella cuenta que encontro a varios de sus alumnos reunidos en torno a otro que les mostraba algo con su notebook, se acerco y vio que estaba mostrando linux, usando un Live CD. Automaticamente la oligofrenica les confisco el CD porque "ningun software es gratuito". Cuenat que luego de una reunion con los alumnos se entero de Helios y su fundador y le escribio la carta.
    Leanla que los dischos de esta persona son, en palabras de Ken Starks, graciosos en el sentido triste de la palabra.

    "...observed one of my students with a group of other children gathered around his laptop. Upon looking at his computer, I saw he was giving a demonstration of some sort. The student was showing the ability of the laptop and handing out Linux disks. After confiscating the disks I called a confrence with the student and that is how I came to discover you and your organization. Mr. Starks, I am sure you strongly believe in what you are doing but I cannot either support your efforts or allow them to happen in my classroom. At this point, I am not sure what you are doing is legal. No software is free and spreading that misconception is harmful. These children look up to adults for guidance and discipline. I will research this as time allows and I want to assure you, if you are doing anything illegal, I will pursue charges as the law allows. Mr. Starks, I along with many others tried Linux during college and I assure you, the claims you make are grossly over-stated and hinge on falsehoods. I admire your attempts in getting computers in the hands of disadvantaged people but putting linux on these machines is holding our kids back.

    This is a world where Windows runs on virtually every computer and putting on a carnival show for an operating system is not helping these children at all. I am sure if you contacted Microsoft, they would be more than happy to supply you with copies of an older verison of Windows and that way, your computers would actually be of service to those receiving them..."


    Karen xxxxxxxxx
    xxxxxxxxx Middle School
    AISD

    -------------------------------------------------

    hasta aca la carta, a continuacion la respuesta de Ken:


    Hmmmm....

    I suppose I should, before anything else, thank you. You have given me the opportunity to show others just what a battle we face in what we do. "We" being those who advocate, support and use Free Open Source Software and Linux in particular.

    If you find my following words terse or less than cordial, take a breath and prepare yourself...what I have to say to you are soft strokes to your hair in comparison to what you are about to experience.

    First off, if there was even the slightest chance that I was doing something illegal, it would not have been done. To think that I would involve my kids in my "illegal" activities is an insult far beyond outrage. You should be ashamed of yourself for putting into print such none sense.

    And please...investigate to your heart's content. You are about to have your eyes opened, that is if you actually investigate anything at all. Linux is a free as-in-cost and free as-in-license operating system. It was designed specifically for those purposes. Linux is used to free people from Microsoft. The fact that you seem to believe that Microsoft is the end all and be-all is actually funny in a sad sort of way. Then again, being a good NEA member, you would spout the Union line. Microsoft has pumped tens of millions of dollars into your union. Of course you are going to "recommend" Microsoft Windows". To do otherwise would probably get you reprimanded at the least and fired at the worst. You are only doing what you've been instructed to do.

    You've been trained well.

    I don't know when you attended college Karen but the Linux of even two years ago pales in feature and ability to what there is available now...and that in turn will pale in a year's time. linux is superior to MS windows in so many ways, they are too numerous to mention here...I am weary of enumerating them. Unlike Microsoft who meters their "improvements" and then shovels them to you every five years or so for purchase; Linux releases their improvements upon their completion. We receive the newest and the best of the system when it is tested to be usable and stable. Karen, you have no idea the slavery you work under...but you don't know any better. The shame of it is, you are trapped with millions of other teachers in obeying the NEA and preaching the goodness of Windows and Microsoft. A superior, free and absolutely entertaining method of operating your computer is within reach and you are unable to grasp it.

    The most disturbing part of this resides in the fact that the AISD purchases millions of dollars of Microsoft Software in a year's time when that money could be better spent on educating our children. A dedicated School Teacher would recognize that fact and lobby for the change to Free Open Source Software and let the money formally spent on MS bindware be used on our kids.

    A teacher who cared about her students would do that.

    That is sad past my ability to express it to you. Don't shackle your students in your prison Karen.

    Now. You give that boy his disks back. Aaron is a brilliant kid and he's learned more using Linux than he ever did using Windows. Those disks and their distribution are perfectly legal and even if he was "disruptive", you cannot keep his property. I have placed a call to the AISD Superintendent and cc'd him a complete copy of your email. It looks like we will get to meet in his office when School starts again after the holiday. I am anxious to meet a person who is this uninformed and still holds a position of authority and learnedness over our children.

    Ken Starks
    HeliOS Solutions

    All-Righty Then

    ------------------------------------------------------

    Lamentablemente y como bien dice Starks, esto es con lo que aun hoy el soft libre y sus partidarios debemos luchar dia a dia, contra la ignorancia y contra las practicas propagandistas de Microsoft (y otros) que venden a la gente que lo que es gratis no puede ser bueno.

    Ojala que estos alumnos, y que esta profesora, aprendan algo de todo esto.

    Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
  • Frostwarrior
    Nerd legendario
    • 30-01-2006
    • 29055

    #2
    You've been trained well.

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    • PeGa!
      Reality's power button
      • 17-09-2004
      • 157

      #3
      Tengo una amiga que una vuelta le conté que yo laburaba con software libre, y cuando me pidió explicaciones sobre el software libre (le conté que instalaba GNU/Linux en servidores y cuanta workstation podía), me empezó a decir que lo que yo hacía era ilegal...

      No es este ni el primer ni el último caso, señores. Pero es la prueba de que tenemos carne para masticar a rolete :P
      emerge -vat base-misc/ancient-storm

      Calculating dependencies...

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      • Rumpelstiltskin
        We ♥ Katamari!
        • 07-03-2005
        • 2000

        #4
        Idém frostwarrior.

        Los profesores de computación no pueden apestar tanto =(

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        • FaLKoN
          Magic Gladiator
          • 29-04-2004
          • 12911

          #5
          terrible la ignorancia

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          • Kpoyo
            Mandatory rape!
            • 16-05-2004
            • 8042

            #6
            Lo lei hoy a la mañana.

            Me dio una mezcla de indignacion y de incontrolable risa. Al punto de "no puede sssssssserrrrrrrr"

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            • Ramireo
              ramiroanimax.blogspot.com
              • 09-01-2005
              • 3669

              #7
              jAUAujaUJAUJAujaUJju

              xD


              dios, pero es sentido común que si alguien quiere hacer algo y darlo GRATIS, es posible o_O
              ya sea software o cualquier cosa xD
              http://ramiroanimax.blogspot.com



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              • Cadarlion
                Tecnohippie
                • 09-03-2004
                • 12908

                #8
                Originalmente publicado por Ramireo
                jAUAujaUJAUJAujaUJju

                xD


                dios, pero es sentido común que si alguien quiere hacer algo y darlo GRATIS, es posible o_O
                ya sea software o cualquier cosa xD
                si, para nosotros si, peor para un monton de gente no, porque el mismo sistema te lleva a pensar que todo tiene un valor en dinero y que nada es gratis

                Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

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                • elporte
                  Mega Egelito
                  • 05-03-2006
                  • 4335

                  #9
                  jauajauajauajaua, dios, "I am anxious to meet a person who is this uninformed and still holds a position of authority and learnedness over our children."

                  yo tambien quisiera conocer a alguien taaan malinformado, osea, no importa si sos o no partidario, no podes no saber lo que es el movimiento digamos menos si sos profesora de computacion

                   
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                  • Cygnus
                    Bawn gorno.
                    • 08-03-2004
                    • 7552

                    #10
                    todo puede ser en estados unidos.

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                    • Godlike
                      Improved Inválido
                      • 14-04-2003
                      • 8949

                      #11
                      Cuánta gente malcogida que hay en el mundo eh... y CUÁN MALCOGIDA también.

                      Lo único que voy a remarcar es (como ya hice en otro thread y también hizo Don Cardán ac&#225 que lo bueno también puede ser gratis. A ver cuando rompemos esa asociación de mierda de una vez.
                       
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                      • bananas
                        /
                        • 08-05-2004
                        • 15153

                        #12
                        muy largo

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                        • Cadarlion
                          Tecnohippie
                          • 09-03-2004
                          • 12908

                          #13
                          Originalmente publicado por dfs
                          muy largo
                          y para que posteas????

                          Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

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                          • Frostwarrior
                            Nerd legendario
                            • 30-01-2006
                            • 29055

                            #14
                            porque le va a mandar un email tanto a la profesora como al chabon de heliOS diciendo que es un chabon de un foro que tiene paja de leer sus cartas y que por favor las resuman

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                            • Ancalagon
                              Titiritero de Almas
                              • 13-04-2004
                              • 13776

                              #15
                              Karen, you have no idea the slavery you work under...but you don't know any better




                              Lamentblemente, tiene toda la razón, cada vez hay más monitos entrenados.


                              Alto 1984 boludoOOooOO [¿?]

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